Is BG2 still the best? (2024)

I enjoyed BG3 a lot too.

It might be. My first intent was to say that no, Planesape: Torment is the best, but on further thought the actual gameplay in Torment was pretty unfun.

Skyrim legitimately is a pretty fun game. Not a masterpiece, but I've spent a fair amount of time on it. I think t, like a lot of Bethesda game, sort of feels like it doesn't quite understand what it's good at. The game's at its best when you just ignore the main story and wander around the open world seeing what you bump into, but the main story's pressing enough that it's jarring from an RP perspective to take the time murderhoboing around.

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Yeah, we discuss /tg/-related video games here sometimes, anon. We have done so for a long, long time.

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If you mean Owlcat's Pathfinder games, I like them a whole lot, for all their flaws. I'm currently replaying Wrath of the Righteous and enjoying it at least as much as on my first playthrough.

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I enjoyed my playthrough of BG3, too, though I'm not sure if I'll ever replay it. I don't think it should've been a Baldur's Gate, game. Like, a Larian game set in Forgotten Realms with the exact same concept would've been fine with me, but BG3's connections to BG1 and BG2 mostly felt tenuous and at times honestly pretty disrespectful. There are other things about BG3 I take issue with, but I think it was, like, a solid 8/10 game, it just didn't feel like it actually wanted to be any kind of a sequel to BG1 and 2.

>it just didn't feel like it actually wanted to be any kind of a sequel to BG1 and 2.

I don't think it did, either. It was just called that to cash in any brand recognition from the IE BG games. I'm not sure if there was really that much to gain, but it was a factor of my interest that they used the Baldur's Gate name rather than calling Dungeons & Dragons: Rise of the Absolute or something.

>but BG3's connections to BG1 and BG2 mostly felt tenuous and at times honestly pretty disrespectful
Can you elaborate?
The only things I've heard are Sarevok and Viconia (I tried BG3 but dropped it and probably won't return to it)

Minsc & Boo and Jaheira join the party. They're bother pretty on brand but you get them pretty late so they're fairly tacked with little in the way of character development or character-specific content.

The Dark Urge is also a Bhaalspawn sooooort of. Rather than being the child of someone Bhaal knocked up and invested his essence into to survive his death like in BG 1 & 2, the Dark Urge is like a piece of Bhaal - I think a drop of blood or some sh*t like that - that has its own personality and sentience/sapience and can walk around relatively independently but was prone to doing full Chaotic moron sh*t before his brain got fricked up by Orin, who is also an honourary Bhaalspawn by being Sarevok's daugher/grandaughter - Sarevok fricked his own daughter and Orin is what came out.

There's also a quest where you have to collect the dismembered bits of a clown. As you collected them you find Orin has recreated some of the 'greatest hits' of BG 1 & 2 and you find the pieces of the clown mixed in with dead people. One of them is like Yaga-Shura's son who tried to pull the same invulnerability sh*t his dad did, but it didn't work obviously since he was ganked.

It's an interquel made 15 years later by another company. It doesn't fit into the story at all and has some very strange writing decisions. More importantly, the game feels completely different from BG1 and BG2. It's also completely ignored in BG3.

Siege of Dragonspear is an entirely original creation of Beamdog, inserted between the two OG games. It has a different tone, and in the opinion of many, worse writing. In my opinion, it's okay but doesn't measure up to BG1+2; it's like a well-polished fan module.

A lot of grogs also skip the Beamdog NPCs (Neera, Rasaad, Dorn, and Hexxat), which is fun because the game practically forces all of them but Dorn onto you, but they're less intrusive so they're not usually included in the advice. Neera, Dorn, and Hexxat are complete Mary Sues, and Rasaad is incredibly boring, and many consider Monk to be the worst class in the game.

tl;dr Beamdog are mediocre-to-sh*tty writers

I've heard that Siege of Dragonspear is . . . I don't want to use inflammatory buzzwords as a shorthand . . . well, shall we say, rife with contemporary political messaging and sensibilities in that very deliberate manner that is so often extremely detrimental to storytelling quality?

Is BG2 still the best? (2024)
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